The EU says X is the worst platform for disinformation | Just as it removes a way to report election misinformation::undefined

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    The election misinformation seems to be the point. Why else would someone bankroll Twitter/X?

    • Granbo's Holy Hotrod@lemmy.world
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      This has been my thought the whole time. In general, just to put down the effective communication of the masses in real time, that is scary to a certain small group of people.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    EU should block X. See how Lonnie responds to that.

    Future headline: Lonboy threatens to sue EU

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    “Remember, Free Speech is when I, and only I, can say whatever the hell I want!” - Elon Musk

    How is twitter still standing? Mastodon is the way of the future

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      I sometimes wonder how much it would take to get people to leave X en masse. Maybe if Elon was posting Nazi propaganda?

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        Nope. I sent this article to my trumper friend and he said “yeah the eu is a horribly corrupt organization”. If Elon promoted Nazi propaganda they would be excited and embrace that too.

        Maybe if something else big came along and everyone was like “you’re still using Xitter? Lol okay boomer” they might consider moving over. Maybe.

      • nik0@lemm.ee
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        Not even. Remember he was funding people like Andrew Tate thousands of dollars. Nothing is gonna get these people out unless they get charged to use twitter

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          A lot of people don’t think Andrew Tate is wrong so I don’t think that’s a great argument (or at least that’s what appears to be on places like insta, etc)

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        Lots of them surely will migrate to Mastodon when Elon releases that fee bs. Honestly, we should thank Elon for that. Thanks to him, Mastodon will become mainstream soon.

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          If lemmy didn’t take over the world after the Reddit schism then I don’t think twitter will ever die either. Twitter users have been given every reason to leave yet there’s already lots of people paying money to the person they hate the most in the world just to use it. And most of those people aren’t really people anymore, they’re twitter users on every level of their being. It would be like a blobfish out of water.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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        Honestly I’m surprised it didn’t become a ghost town like Tumblr did after they banned porn.

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      Mastodon will go nowhere because most instances are run by losers who want to shield themselves from instances with different opinions and defederate from thousands of instances for little reason.

      The most likely replacement will be threads or bluesky

  • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It already was prior to Musk’s takeover.

    It’s just always been a cesspool. A complete waste of human energy and time. And it never once turned a profit. An abject failure by every metric.

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      It already was prior to Musk’s takeover.

      It’s crazy how media pretends Twitter wasn’t the biggest contributor to Trump’s MAGA movement, being the most followed user on the site up until his fanatic followers stormed the US capitol. I mean did people already forget these dreadful years of “Trump tweeted” headlines every single day??? Twitter has been an enemy to democracy for many years.

      • SMT42@lemmy.world
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        I don’t know how you can say that was anti-democratic, though.
        That level of open and direct communication from the sitting president is very democratic. Say what you will about the content of that communication, but Twitter did not act undemocratically by allowing the president to speak freely…

    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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      And it never once turned a profit.

      Not true.

      Twitter was profitable at the time when that Elon guy bought it (and before, and some time after).

      • AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world
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        Also you could follow actual people like artists and niche hobby groups. It had a purpose. I mean, a passable one. Not anymore

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            He’s absolutely fine with that. If anything, he represents the other side of tech billionaires, the illuminated technocrat. He thinks he’s above the other social parts at a certain extent, so he’s fine with anti-democracy arguments as long as they support his view of the world, including the idea that he’s that saviour of us all, through technology, of course.

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    We watching how daft Elon is in real time, and his fan boys and girls are still trying to tell us he’s smart…

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    …worst platform for disinformation…

    Is that a double negative, or am I hallucinating ?

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    When did we collectively decide techbro billionaires should be the arbiter of what is and isn’t disinformation?

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      When we decided that freedom of speech was a core freedom, and the wealthiest people own the biggest megaphones. Musk’s Twitter is just a reflection of the same system that protects the Murdochs, Chatham Asset Management, etc. The bar for “this speech is illegal” is extremely high in most first-world countries, at least unless your disinformation can be shown to harm important corporations (fraud) or rich people with really really good lawyers (defamation) or the justice system itself (perjury, filing false reports), it’s basically impossible to fight. This weakness of the justice system was why everybody was happy to see amoral corporations like Twitter taking up the project pre-Musk.

      Remember, the only people who managed to extract consequences for The Big Lie from the above organizations is Dominion Voting Systems, a huge corporation that could show damages.

      As long as the facts of our shared reality are considered beneath protection unless they coincide with the financial interests of VIPs, shitty people with big megaphones will lie with impunity.

    • Natanael@slrpnk.net
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      When we decided to gather in their websites in large masses and ignore our common sense

    • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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      Well, we gave the people with the money the power to decide everything else that’s important so why not that too?

  • Myro@lemm.ee
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    Musk probably sees this as a confirmation it’s working as intended.

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    Not sure if this is the right place but I need to get off Twitter/X, I would love to use Mastodon but the hurdle feels bigger than Reddit to Lemmy. The Mastodon client feels uncomfortable to me for some reason, and I guess unlike reddit/lemmy where you have a group of people talking about specific topics, I am interested in following specific people on Twitter - a fraction of whom are on Mastodon. I don’t want to support Musk or his platform but I’m struggling to find a replacement.

    I guess if he starts charging for it the decision will be made for me 😅

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      People say that picking a server for Mastodon isn’t that important, but really I think it is. Because just a with Lemmy where you can view your Communities, Local and All it’s the same on Mastodon - your server is the Local feed made up of all the people on that server. So you can just read the whole feed of everyone that way, and is it’s a server based around a topic you like then it’s a great place. But if you pick a server based around Crypto or Dance or Sport then you’re going to have a dull time.

      Yes you can find individual people, but it’s a lot more fiddly to find people that aren’t on your server. You kind of have to know who and where they are already.

      That’s why the fediverse works better for Lemmy than Mastodon IMO - because it’s about whole topics than people.

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        People told me that I could pick any server and it wouldn’t matter, but I noticed that not all the content in the communities I follow from other servers appear to me. It’s confusing.

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      I haven’t used Twitter much in years really. But after switching to Lemmy during the reddit API debacle I thought I’d give it a go and am really enjoying it. I’ve set up a ton of filters to block out stuff I don’t want to see, and joined a couple of instances for two different personas. I’m not using the official mobile client. On Android I use Tusky and Megalodon. Tusky is my daily driver and feels like how I remember the Twitter app from 7 or 8 years ago. Megalodon is nice for cross instance discovery, but has a couple of UI quirks that prevent me from using fully. My SO uses Ice Cubes on iOS and that looks pretty sweet. Personally I found the switch comparable to Lemmy. It took me a month or two to build up a good number of active people to follow to get to the stage of having an interesting feed. It also seems to have got a lot more active in the last week. When I have dropped into Twitter it’s a dumpster fire on top of a cesspit. I don’t think I could go back. I’d absolutely recommend giving Mastodon a go.

  • TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com
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    This is completely unsurprising. Under the new “free speech” regime, X has been completely deluged with antisemitic, pro-Russia, and anti-democracy propaganda. It’s no wonder that advertisers don’t want to be associated with that type of content.

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      “Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech” Noam Chomsky