Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is facing widespread criticism from political leaders and civil rights organizations after a video surfaced of him making false claims that COVID-19 was designed to attack certain ethnic groups while sparing Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people — a conspiracy theory that drew accusations of antisemitism and racism.

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    His claim is insane and insanely racist but there should by a conversation on how COVID negatively effected oppressed minorities and how in general their health service is so horrendous.

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      “His claim is insane, but it’s right”?

      That’s your defense?

      What he said sounds bad, especially when we just read the headlines and think we know the context, but he’s just saying the virus doesn’t affect every ethnicity the same.

      We know that. It’s fact. You agree with it. So why is the claim insane?

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        There is a difference in saying that there is a disparity in health outcomes due to racism and saying there is a Jewish-chinese conspiracy to destroy the white race. They are actually nothing alike.

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            He implied the virus was bio engineered and Ashkenazi and Han were made immune are you being deliberately dense. Here is his quote

            “COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,”

            He also said

            “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” he continued, adding, “We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact.”

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              “COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,”

              Are you claiming that there are no differences between ethnicities and the harshness of covid?

              COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” he continued, adding, “We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact.”

              What’s wrong with that? He said we don’t know the origins. That’s fact. He said we do know they affect different ethnicities differently, that’s fact.

              You’re trying to push a narrative against him for that.

              Come on, dude.

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                We don’t know the exact origins but we should assume given the likelihood it is and the lack of evidence otherwise that’s its perfectly natural to do otherwise is crazy. He is obviously throwing racist dog whistles that you are refusing to see that shows you are a racist and I really see no point talking to you.

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                  We don’t know the exact origins

                  And many big organizations say there’s a reasonable chance that it was lab altered.

                  we should assume given the likelihood it is and the lack of evidence otherwise that’s its perfectly natural

                  We don’t know the origins, as you said before, but we should assume it was natural? I don’t assume either way, but it seems weird you claimed both these things.

                  He is obviously throwing racist dog whistles

                  No, he’s not. He said that we don’t know if it was created/altered by humans or not.

                  But we do know it affects different ethnicities differently, which is, once again, objectively right.

                  refusing to see that shows you are a racist

                  Refusing to think like you makes me a racist? I think we have different definitions of racist.

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                    The vast majority of diseases are natural so assuming its engineered without hard evidence is silly. What big organizations not tainted by racism or a conservative political agenda say believe the insane lab leak theory or worse deliberate infections. He implied heavily that the virus was made by a jewish chinese alliance to hurt americans that’s a racist talking point that you think its not and you are getting upvoted and me down voted makes me rethink using this website. How does it affect different “races” differently races don’t exist biologically so any effect would have to do with culturally health support and other factors. Saying covid was a deliberate jewish conspiracy is racist yes do you not think saying that is?

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                He was talking about covid in the context of engineered bioweapons. That the virus has been more severe with people of color can, and has been explained by racial inequity and access to care.

                “The overrepresentation of African Americans among confirmed COVID-19 cases and number of deaths underscores the fact that the coronavirus pandemic, far from being an equalizer, is amplifying or even worsening existing social inequalities tied to race, class, and access to the health care system.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7762908/#:~:text=Approximately 97.9 out of every,Asians (40.4 per 100%2C000).

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                  What makes you think he was talking about covid in the context of engineered bioweapons?

                  He said “there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact.”

                  You provided one such paper that shows that there are differences in how covid impacted different communities. Whether that’s due to obesity rates, socioeconomic status or healthcare access.

                  "Kennedy later posted a video statement on Sunday, saying in part: “Nobody has suggested that these were deliberately engineered changes and I certainly don’t believe that they were deliberately engineered,”

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                    Select? Attention? Hmm. That sounds like it has agency. But then a disease can’t have agency, so it must be someone with agency using the disease. Almost as if it’s a bioweapon.

                    If it’s targeted, that is.