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    Isn’t there overwhelming polling saying he is likely to win? Harris hitches herself to whoever is likely to win. That is her entire career.

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      The DNC:✍️Women✍️and✍️POC✍️need✍️to✍️be✍️permanently✍️benched✍️

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          It’s still fucked considering she was better in every way compared to the other option. That said, yes she has zero charisma and authenticity. Her entire platform is consultancy-crafted buzzwords and ambiguity.

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            “Please donate to Harris, it’s the only way to win.”

            That’s the only message I got from her. Lots of talk around other messages but the one they hammered home in all their canvassing, sms and such was MONEY.

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            Yeah, those few citizens not buying their bullshit can make all the difference.

            It’s why we should focus all of our efforts on making sure people like her never become the nominee, because that’s essentially handing the presidency to the republicans.

            Nominating hillary fucking clinton in 2016 over Bernie Sanders was bonkers. I don’t think the nation will ever recover from that blunder, and we still don’t put the blame where it belongs.

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            It was exceedingly obvious 2024 was a populist election, and she let Trump take that mantle and run with it. Bernie would have mopped the floor with these corporatists. This is why Mamdani is ascendant.

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        Holy shit it’s (cops are objects not people) doing the literal bare minimum to technically undermine the specific wording of one criticism. Holy shit.

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            It (Harris) is technically backing mamdani in the least backing least him way possible, while holding her nose and making her disapproval of him very obvious. The bare minimum for making it so that technically one democrat I’ve heard of–other than DINO’s like sanders– has backed him so we can’t truthfully make the sweeping dramatic statement that "no major democrat has endorsed zohran mamdani.

            It is technically an endorsement, but only technically.

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              what was the “cops are objects” comment? Was this something that kamala harris said

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                No. It was a prosecutor–which is a kind of cop.

                It has not apologized condemned or made amends for its past behavior–therefore it is still a cop.

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                  I loathe harris but calling her “it” is pretty douchey. Why do that? Why attack her gender? Did her gender in particular do something to you?

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    In the most unenthusiastic way possible. But it’s better than an outright rejection.

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      Come ooon, she just tilted her head a little, no need to scare the poor woman xD

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        It’s my fan theory that she was only supporting Israel to get campaign donations and would have done what every politician does and abandoned her campaign promises. Iirc while VP she supported investigating Israel in order to nullify the law that says we have to supply Israel with arms.

        If you look at her past voting history, it aligns super close to Sanders.

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          Raising half a billion more than Trump didn’t do her a lot of good. Maybe next time a candidate should try running on what the people want instead of the donors.

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            If the election was decided on the basis of “which candidate is going to give us what we want,” Trump would have gotten about 15% of the vote. Look around at what’s happening now, and it hasn’t even got really ramped up yet. We’ve got years and years more of this stuff. And it’s going to get worse (not just politically but in terms of economic suffering, the final death of American science and education, stuff we haven’t even really had on the radar yet).

            I don’t disagree that some of her campaign strategy was bad, keeping Biden in that long was bad, all that stuff, but also… if the people are choosing diving into the empty swimming pool instead of the full one, then sure you could say you could spruce up the full one to make it more enticing and make sure the water’s not too cold, but that’s not the core of the issue.

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              It’s definitely the core of the issue. Trump ran on cost of living issues and deporting immigrants (which is essentially a cost of living argument as well to a lot of people, even if empirically it’s a policy that has an opposite effect).

              Kamala ran on essentially upholding existing institutions, ‘democracy’ and hanging out with the people that got the US into the Iraq war.

              A lot of people picked the lying conman over the person that didn’t even promise to do the bare minimum. If the government doesn’t work for the people (and granted, a lot of it is due to Republicans cynically sabotaging things at every level), people will vote to change it one way or another.

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                You’re not grasping what I’m saying. I’m more or less agreeing with you that her campaigning was bad. My point is that, also, for things to even get to that point where this election was close whatever she did (even with people crying out for some kind of change to the point that anyone who wasn’t a politician looked like a step up to them), a lot of groundwork got laid that had absolutely nothing to do with her.

                Some of it was the Democrats betraying the working class for the last 32 years, some of it was media. Some of it was her campaigning, too, sure. It’s not an either or thing.

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                  Of course, this is definitely not just Kamala, this is a Democratic leadership issue, has been since Carter. Biden would’ve faced the same issues.

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          I mean it’s a long shot, but it would have been easier to convince her than it would to convince Trump.

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            Which was exactly the point of holding her accountable.

            There was zero other avenue than try to pressure her with losing voters. She took the AIPAC money and sold out America to Trump instead.

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      Oh come on! This is just her yet again pandering to the left of the party to get votes. Why won’t she just grow a spine and standup for the values that she stood for. /s

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        She knows how to get the lefts votes and she knows its not going to happen by simply half-endorsing mamdani. She has to say Israel is committing a genocide and endorse universal human rights or she has no chance in hell.

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      She never was the dogshit that people made her out to be, it’s not really that surprising in a way it would be for people like Pelosi or Chuck Shumer.

      I mean it is the normal thing to endorse your party’s person who won the primary, it is only a handful of real pieces of shit that are holding back on it. The problem is that those pieces of shit are highly placed in the Democratic party sadly enough.

      Edit: Oof… I hadn’t watched the actual video. Yeah, it’s at least 30% dogshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwt7hMaNaBQ

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          I’m not sure what you’re getting at here, so I’ll just answer it straight: There is basically nothing that any establishment Democrat could say about Mamdani that would make me think any different about him. It’s a little bit relevant for his prospects whether they officially endorse him, because it means money and institutional support and it probably will sway a decent number of establishment-Democrat voters. But mostly I’m speaking about it as a way to test the people doing the endorsing or not endorsing. Harris doing right by endorsing him doesn’t really surprise me, because I already thought she was basically okay, but some of the others it would. It wouldn’t really make me think positive about them, more than anything I would take it meaning the DNC consultant narrative and awareness of where people are at is catching up to reality which would be a good thing. Does that answer?

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      No, but it demonstrates once again that all your “lesser evil” dems will burn the party down before they allow a real alternative to fascism.