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    According to participants, the two sides have agreed in principle that migrants claiming a credible fear of persecution in their home countries must meet a higher bar to prove their concerns are well founded. They remain at an impasse, however, over whether to change policies governing when and where people entering the United States without permission should be detained or paroled into the country until their cases can be heard by a judge.

    In principle, what this means is that if you’re queer and there’s a country that you are fleeing from because they want to kill you to come to America where it is, at least, legal to be queer (for now)- fuck you. You’re going back to die.

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      The thing almost nobody wants to say that’s driving this (imo) - the ruling class sees the writing on the wall for global climate change and knows that lots of poor desperate people are going to be fleeing for their lives over the coming century, and their response is to tighten things down as much as possible so all those people die quietly away from the cameras

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      Well, of course not. What you’ll do is come to America illegally because the legal method won’t work.

      It’s just like how the GOP tries as hard as it can to maximize abortions by limiting access to contraceptives: this is an attempt to maximize illegal immigration by making legal immigration less and less of a real prospect. The GOP would much rather any immigrant be illegal than legal - e.g. because they can then pretend this problem is caused by Biden and use it in their rhetoric.

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        Of course, it can be argued that it’s by design. Hiring undocumented immigrants at far below minimum wage makes companies money and they rarely get significantly penalized for it.

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      why cant they seek refuge in Mexico? several friends of mine (that are gay) moved down there for that reason. one of them got his Mexican citizenship after 8 years or so just a few months ago. he sure looks a lot happier on his fb posts.

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    “The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink.”

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    Everybody loves shitting on the Democrats, but I just want to point out that Republican leadership is demanding concessions for merely bringing popular bipartisan legislation up for a vote. Everything is the debt ceiling now. Hamas ain’t the only one taking hostages.

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    Did y’all expect Democrats to be so gung-ho about war that Republicans are able to force concessions out of them for additional funding?

    What the actual fuck.

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      I mean, for my own personal opinion - I’ve got no problem throwing money at Ukraine because Putin is an asshole and we can afford it, but throwing asylum seekers under the bus to do it is a moral abomination and political malpractice

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        It’s not just for Ukraine! They’re bending over backwards to fund Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza and adding fuel to the powder keg in Taiwan.

        It’s like they’re trying to start WW3

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          “Adding fuel to the powder keg in Taiwan”

          Yes, I am sure that Taiwan will invade China any day now.

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            It might decide to declare true independence and break away from China’s government entirely, and then China would respond in the obvious way, and now WW3 has another front.

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              Arguably the only thing keeping Taiwan from being fully annexed right now is what they have built up militarily and that they are an island.

              The powder keg you’re bemoaning is them maybe putting up a fight in the future vs getting steamrolled quickly and without much fanfare.

              If you think China has a right to the country, then sure I can see why you have a problem with them being able to defend themselves. Otherwise, I’m not sure what your point is. Taiwan isn’t building up for an attack on China so maybe ease up on the victim blaming here.

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                Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country? And that, maybe, all of this military hardware and funding might make peaceful reunification harder?

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                  Have I considered that China would like for the people it invades to just roll over and accept their new masters instead of fighting back?

                  Yeah, I considered that. It seems likely that they would want that. I have yet to think of any good reason why they should get that wish, though.

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                  Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country?

                  No shit.

                  But Tiwan wants China to fuck the fuck off. And hopefully if China ever pushes the issue, the Tiwan Straight seabed gains some new artificial reefs courtesy of the Chinese military.

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              “In the obvious way”

              Maybe the attempted subjugation of a nation should be blamed on the subjugator and not the democratic government which represents the to-be-subjugated?

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                China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan. That’s as unacceptable as the USSR putting nukes in Cuba. It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

                Also? Peaceful reunification is not some impossible thing, but it becomes much harder when hardline nationalists have endless military backing from the US.

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                  China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan.

                  … there already is a hostile US-aligned Taiwan, and has been for as long as the PRC has existed.

                  It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

                  Therefore, it must be crushed, and it’s the duty of every true anti-imperialist to lend critical support to Chinese imperialism.

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        Except Republican politicians were able to use war as a bargaining chip to get concessions. That shows Democrats are somehow an even more pro war party at the moment. Incredible.

        Fuck this country so much lol