She’s essentially a serial killer so I was looking into her past. Her parents were extremely over bearing, clingy and guilt trippers who were always smothering her, so I’m sure that contributed, but there’s gotta be more in her past that led her to this.
Exactly. They still can’t point to a person and say “This person will kill and this one won’t”. It seems to require a confluence of a number of things. A violent childhood, a socially stunted development, opportunity, a lack of empathy and a psychopathic mentality, an ability to compartmentalize (good family man at home, violent psycho outside of it). Even then it still isn’t a guarantee.
But that’s not helpful, it might be true in some sense but then it is for everything - would you rather wallow in hate or try to understand and prevent similar things happening in the future?
Some people can be born with effectively broken brains.
Take any trait, generosity, comedic ability, levels of empathy, etc. All of these traits can be modulated by DNA (and epigenetics of course). It only makes sense that out of the millions of babies born, some baby will come with little ability to experience empathy. That baby could grow up to take pleasure in sick things, to grow into a sadist.
To be clear, by broken brains I’m not referring to learning disabilities or people who disagree with me etc. I’m referring to brains that cannot function in society due to an accident of birth – brains that have effectively chosen a life strategy incompatible with with the stable society the rest of our brains have chosen.
Also to be clear, those people with broken brains?.. They are mostly in positions of power.
This is only true if you’re a firm believer in all nature, no nurture.
I didn’t claim “nurture” is not a thing, nor do I think the existence of “nurture” negates my claims.
I think while rare, an effective psychopath (I say effective because I’m not doctor diagnosing someone but I mean the same thing) could grow up to not be a sadist given certain other traits and a positive environment. A smart psychopath that doesn’t want to die in prison and had nice parents could decide that acting in a manner compatible with society will get them what they want more than the alternatives.
I’d like to think that someone who’s born wrong can still be “right” if they have loving and nurturing parents who get them high quality mental healthcare. It’s much nicer than having to accept it’s totally out of our control.
That phrase is a bit of a grey area based on context and can be both highly bigoted and offensive if used in the context of hate speech and / or discrimination
She’s essentially a serial killer so I was looking into her past. Her parents were extremely over bearing, clingy and guilt trippers who were always smothering her, so I’m sure that contributed, but there’s gotta be more in her past that led her to this.
My parents are overbearing, clingy,and guilt trippers; I haven’t committed any murders yet.
Exactly. They still can’t point to a person and say “This person will kill and this one won’t”. It seems to require a confluence of a number of things. A violent childhood, a socially stunted development, opportunity, a lack of empathy and a psychopathic mentality, an ability to compartmentalize (good family man at home, violent psycho outside of it). Even then it still isn’t a guarantee.
They do it because they choose to. Regardless of all other circumstances, the choice is always theirs.
But that’s not helpful, it might be true in some sense but then it is for everything - would you rather wallow in hate or try to understand and prevent similar things happening in the future?
“yet”
Some people can be born with effectively broken brains.
Take any trait, generosity, comedic ability, levels of empathy, etc. All of these traits can be modulated by DNA (and epigenetics of course). It only makes sense that out of the millions of babies born, some baby will come with little ability to experience empathy. That baby could grow up to take pleasure in sick things, to grow into a sadist.
To be clear, by broken brains I’m not referring to learning disabilities or people who disagree with me etc. I’m referring to brains that cannot function in society due to an accident of birth – brains that have effectively chosen a life strategy incompatible with with the stable society the rest of our brains have chosen.
Also to be clear, those people with broken brains?.. They are mostly in positions of power.
This is only true if you’re a firm believer in all nature, no nurture. That’s not where the scientific consensus is.
I didn’t claim “nurture” is not a thing, nor do I think the existence of “nurture” negates my claims.
I think while rare, an effective psychopath (I say effective because I’m not doctor diagnosing someone but I mean the same thing) could grow up to not be a sadist given certain other traits and a positive environment. A smart psychopath that doesn’t want to die in prison and had nice parents could decide that acting in a manner compatible with society will get them what they want more than the alternatives.
Lol you’re describing probably a quarter of parents.
Some people are just born wrong.
I’d like to think that someone who’s born wrong can still be “right” if they have loving and nurturing parents who get them high quality mental healthcare. It’s much nicer than having to accept it’s totally out of our control.
That phrase is a bit of a grey area based on context and can be both highly bigoted and offensive if used in the context of hate speech and / or discrimination
Oh my god
Yah, I don’t any parents like that. looks around the room