I haven’t gone back since Apollo shut down, and not planning to, but I am curious.
I read a post somewhere that really vibed with me. It said that they use Apollo and Reddit was just a backend. When Apollo died, Reddit did too for them.
Boost just died for me a hour ago, and Reddit with it. So now I’m here.
Same but with bacon reader.
Same but Reddit Is Fun, Lemmy is kicking ass though.
RIP.
There are dozens of us… Dozens!!
Same. It lasted even longer than it should have
Me too 😭
Yeah. The end of Boost was the end of Reddit for me, too. Now I’m here and trying to figure out Lemmy. So far so good…I think?
My Reddit feed was the result of months of “hide X subreddit” and finding words to blacklist so it’ll take a while for Lemmy to mature into something like that, but whatever.
This is such a mood, all the subreddits tagged as NSFW can only be viewed on the official app now and I refuse to use the official app over joey… So onward to lemmy I go!
Oh I really vibe with that
Ah, yes, typical reddit addict having withdrawal syndrome.
Don’t look back…
Is it withdrawal symptoms if I’m only curious out of spite?
Same, lol. I gave up reddit as soon as the protest started. Been on 4chan to pass the time, but lemmy has really picked up the last week.
Yes. You have to break away 100%. Cold turkey is a bitch!
Lol I wouldn’t really call it a bitch, I haven’t been on since they announced their plans. I just want any corporations to burn when possible
Lemmy is my new Reddit addiction. With Lemmy becoming more vibrant I’m missing Reddit less and less, though Lemmy still has a ways to go.
Getting better daily though.
Tbh this is filling that void. Think I checked reddit once since Apollo died
Never again.
I’ll be honest I was having withdraws until I found out about memmy
Stay strong!
Oh I am lol. I just wanted something to browse during work and Memmy does just that
That’s how it starts!
Haha.
I find the best way to handle withdrawal is to change your habit. I spent time grabbing a few books, and spent a few days with my Kindle or with Foliate fullscreen on my HDTV.
So before, I’d probably spend time answering r/firefox, looking at r/firefoxcss - now I start with 1/2 hour reading Great Expectations. After reading a chapter, I play the same chapter via audiobook - meanwhile I have a couple of TV/Movie versions queued up to watch after finishing reading.
After that I’d probably get into some DadJokes - I can do that on https://lemmy.world/c/dadjokes
Next up, an hour reading The Midnight Library
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !dadjokes@lemmy.world
Good bot
Hello!
May I ask why you are listening to the same chapter after reading it? :) Is it to retain the information or just to not miss anything? Do you do the same regardless if you’re reading fiction or non-fiction?
They still make books? 😉
Most movies and tv shows are from books, and reading the book is 99.5% better.
Think of talking Bladerunner movie and doing it as a 30 minute short.
As much as I want to, I still gotta browse Reddit to get updates related to my niche.
Excuses, excuses.
i have relapsed for the past several days… mostly because my app (boost) has not yet been shut down.
i have been enjoying my fix, but I it does leave me feeling dirty.
As a fellow booster… You’re a whore 😉. Hoping rmayayo really does put together a lemmy/fediverse app.
I’d LAUNCH the Rocket!
There’s a registration up on the Play store to download it once it releases, and he did a pretty open announcement on the Boost for Reddit app.
I’d say somethings coming of it, at the very least.
Yeah, I’m in. Supposedly automatically downloading when available.
I’ve only been back to visit a small, private sub, but I’ve seen a lot of posts here saying that a high percentage of bot content is obvious. The conjecture is that there’s always been a lot of bots, but they were somewhat less obvious because there was more human content. With a lot of big content creators leaving, it’s more apparent when a lot of posts and comments are from bots.
Plus some people think Reddit has increased bot usage to astroturf against the protests and to give the illusion that traffic isn’t down.
I think the bot theory is accurate. 3rd party tools were critical for detecting and removing bot posts before.
The small communities I look at are half of what they used to be. The bigger ones just made up for it with increased bot posting.
The bot posting will probably last long enough for their IPO so they can sucker in enough investors for them to fuck on out of there. The more casual users that are left probably don’t use the system enough to know/care until it comes crashing down.
Surely by now Reddit is toxic for any investors. Their IPO is dead in the water.
Elon would buy it
LOL! Because losing his shirt on one social media platform isn’t enough. };>
I love the sound and view of a good trashfire, so I sometimes go look and see how hard it’s burning.
So /r/madlads Mods did what madlads do: They made everyone a moderator just like /r/politicalhumor did from the beginning of the protest. I brought the idea up to the /r/pics mod just to let them know. Would be funny as hell.
Postwise, Bots started reposting content from 2-3 years ago, ChatGPT was spotted multiple times as a replying user and smaller subs returned to normal, but are slowly drowning in spambot posts or switched to approval-only due to the failing tools.
EDIT: A major antispambot on reddit closes down today by unbanning EVERY SINGLE SPAMBOT on reddit. Did I mention that I love watching things burn down?
To me it feels like the whole ordeal shook reddit quite a bit and made maybe the top 10% of the users drop out of the bucket this way, going to the Fediverse (flavors: lemmy, kbin, mastodon) as far as I can tell right now. Tildes and squabbles got some users, too, but IMHO those seem to be not doing well so far.
Jesus that’s hilarious! Make everyone a mod, I’d love to see that spread.
They didn’t unban all spam bots, they just aren’t adding any more to the ban list.
Good stuff. Trashfires are nice. I first looked at tildes, but invitations were nowhere to be found. Glad I checked out Lemmy mext, I’m really having a great time.
I apparently have 10 tildes invitation codes from 5 years ago when I tried it out. If anyone wants them, send a DM. Personally, I find it too restrictive there as they want everything serious - no jokes. Lemmy is more my speed.
You have to send an email for a Tildes invitation if you don’t personally know someone on there. It took me like 5 days to get the return email and it did go to spam. You can PM me if you still want an invite or go here for the site and sign up info.
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Turning everyone into mods is a horrible idea, because reddit will hand over ownership of any sub doing any kind of protests to the first mod that contacts them and asks for it. At least one sub was taken over because of that by a person who had basically no clue about what they were doing.
It’s dangerous and just asking for Reddit to take over.
You’re not wrong, but that’s also the point. Let Spaz try to run the site with sycophants and no real content creators.
I suspect that mod teams who were serious about protests from the beginning knew that they would eventually be replaced. They’re just doing as much damage as possible and dragging it out now. Spaz will win, but they can make it a Pyrrhic victory.
I’m jumping between Reddit and Lemmy. Some subreddits have all of their mods booted out (r/GoCommitDie and r/OpenAI are two I can think of). Some subreddits have decided to flag their subreddit as NSFW but are being threatened by Reddit to reverse that move, and many have returned to business as usual.
Let’s face it. We’ve lost the API protest. All we can do now is make Lemmy popular and make it attractive to other users. Give people an incentive to actually join here. Our job here is not to make Lemmy a copy of Reddit. We need to make Lemmy different (in a good way!).
And here’s an unpopular opinion: we need to make Lemmy easy to use and understand. If normies find Lemmy difficult to use or understand, then we’re fucked.
My personal opinion is that normies might get confused by the fediverse and might be turned away by thinking they need to make an account on every single instance in order to participate in them. I am not proposing that we get rid of federation. What I am proposing is that we somehow make it clearer to everyone that all you really need is one account and you can get access to everywhere. I don’t know how we can do this, but I’m sure there is someone who knows.
For the normies, I just saw someone recommend the wefwef app on reddit and now here I am.
It’s 2023, people don’t need to know how the fediverse works, they just need to know which app to install.
Content is nice. It feels like reddit of old.
This is going to be great.
I’m not really a normy, but the simple act of making an account is not obvious. With that barrier of entry, most people will simply never be able to join here.
Ha! Even after creating an account, figuring out how to log in to Jerboa took a Google search.
I kinda am, and found it easy enough. Read some stuff and signed up, jumped in and figure it out as I go - am I missing something? There doesn’t seem to be barrier to entry for anyone who can use a phone or computer.
Good. Its an intelligence gate.
Lack of technical expertise does not equate to a lack of intelligence.
It does though. Its not the technology… Its the critical thinking and problem solving. It could be a stone puzzle.
Please help, I can’t for the life of me work out how to Sign Up!!!
GTFO!
Please, anyone that dumb - force them to stay on Reddit. Don’t let them in!!!
Most people start by ending up on the join Lemmy website and are bombarded with info about the fediverse, and the description of each server makes it sound like you can only interact with local commities. If you link someone straight to lemmy.world I imagine they will have no problem signing up.
Oh, ok - I missed something.
I started by looking at BeeHaw from a link - but couldn’t get in.
Then Lemmy.ml, which promptly failed to do much of anything, I actually made 5 accounts with the same username in Bitwarden (just join, then search up my BendyLemmy and ‘auto-fill and save’…).
When Lemmy.world stopped responding (last week I also got tons of errors with Lemmy.ml) I just took a back seat, did something else, then spotted several ‘upgraded!!!’ posts in my feeds.
I’m all for improving the user experience here on Lemmy.
But what I find not so appealing, is targeting mass adoption in a way that dumbs down the community we’re building here.
As long as we just make Lemmy a great place to be, the right kind of people will keep joining.
Meta knows exactly what to do to bring a billion new users to a new social media site, and all you have to do is look at Threads to see the kind of community they are cultivating.
Lemmy does not, and never will, have the moderation power to contend with that many bad actors. I’m perfectly fine with Lemmy having a tiny learning curve to keep out the dregs.
Isn’t it possible to also create a gatekept community on the fediverse by just filtering to “local” on an instance that has the same current state barriers to entry? That’d prevent you from seeing the posts on instances that have lower barriers to entry.
I mean just having someone that has good real world UX skills (as in, good UX for normies) to redesign join.lemmy would probably already solve 90% of it.
I think account transfers is another thing what would help alleviate the pressure from choosing an instance.
I have good (I hope) UI skills, as in, I am good at designing good looking frontends. How do I apply to design the join.lemmy page?
Probably through the GitHub would be my guess.
We didn’t lose. Reddit lost us and will continue to lose.
Reddit offers nothing without its (human) users. They can chatGPT all the posts they want to try and look busy, but people are gonna notice the lack of original thoughts and leave. It will be slow and it won’t be complete, but it is happening.
Fediverse services need to lead with the “all” feed. People don’t want to be pressured to pick a server without knowing what’s on it or where everyone else is. When you go to reddit, the first thing you see is the r/all feed. The posts and content is what gets people to join.
Making cute little infographics could help. Even Reddit had them way back when people didn’t really “get” what all the voting was about or why people were so into bacon.
This is the oldest one I could find with a quick Google search, but I am sure there were older ones as well.
Right now, you DO need multiple accounts. Instances are down all the time, federation either breaks or is intentionally broken through defederation even between relatively large instances, … it gets tedious.
That’s just growing pains from a sudden mass migration, the hug of death if you would.
User base growing organically over time will make this happen less and less.
Lemmy as a software will get more sophisticated, the people running the software will get more used to how things operate and be able to buy more/better hardware, etc…
Right now things are just a bit chaotic from thousands of people jumping ship at the same time.
People don’t care about it being growing pains or what will happen, they’re trying it now.
And people will try it in the future when it is a better experience, too. Both things can happen, I promise you.
I feel like I haven’t seen enough of that happening in the past though. Can you share some examples of where you’d seen it? Maybe Steam? No Man’s Sky?
What other apps debuted early to a poor public reception that got people to come back and try it again and successfully change their minds?
Lemmy now has over an average of a million posts a day up from 300k a month ago. It’s experiencing massive massive growth NOW despite no venture capital being thrown at it. I don’t know why you are asking about sleeper hits when you are literally posting on one. EDIT: I’m an idiot. Misinterpreted the “1 million posts” post from yesterday as a daily total not a cumulative lifetime total.
This isn’t my experience.
I usually hate this response… But I haven’t had any issues, this is bizarre to hear for me.
maybe drop the word federated. That word makes little sense here.
What is the confusing part?
Honestly I feel like the barrier of entry for normies is a good thing. What’s the confusing part about Lemmy and the fediverse? Maybe I’m missing something
You’re just being obtuse if you think that there’s no confusion for the majority.
The absolute vast majority aren’t techies, they aren’t open to learning and they have been used to centralised simplicity.
Just trying to explain home instances, federation and defederation is more than enough to lose the interest and understanding of a vast majority.
Now the barriers do lend themselves to an entirely different feeling and community base. Whether that’s good or bad is down to personal taste. But Lemmy isn’t going to compete with reddit until the process is streamlined and the thinking required is mostly removed.
People outside the sphere of knowledge about the fediverse who I’ve tried to introduce to Lemmy have been quite confused for sure. They’re used to centralized platforms like reddit, so even the concept of having to choose which instance they sign up on and comprehending that they can interact with content on other instances from their instance is super foreign to them. It also isn’t very clear how to subscribe to communities that aren’t on their instance (once they’ve got their head around the fact they can), although sites like Lemmyverse help a ton with discovery. But even visiting a 3rd party site to find communities is confusing.
People who don’t think Lemmy is confusing are only seeing it from their position of knowledge and assuming concepts they already understand are “easy” or “common sense” when to most they’re anything but.
I tried to explain Lemmy to my gf since she was on reddit a lot, but quit for other reasons. Her eyes glazed over, and she gave me a “wow that sounds cool” , like i was our toddler, excitedly telling her about a leaf i saw.
While it’s true that the majority of people may not be tech-savvy or open to learning complex new software, it doesn’t necessarily mean that normal people don’t adopt new software at all. Throughout history, we have seen numerous instances where new technologies and software have gained widespread adoption, even among non-technical users.
Consider the rise of social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. These platforms started with relatively niche user bases but eventually expanded to reach millions, if not billions, of users worldwide. The key to their success was not only their technical features but also their ability to simplify the user experience and cater to the needs and preferences of a wide range of individuals.
In the case of home instances, federation, and defederation, while they may sound complicated and unfamiliar to the average user, it’s important to note that successful software platforms often find ways to abstract complex concepts and provide intuitive interfaces. If the process is streamlined and the thinking required is minimized, it becomes more accessible to a larger audience.
Moreover, it’s worth considering that as technology becomes more pervasive in our daily lives, people are becoming increasingly comfortable with exploring new software and digital experiences. The rise of smartphones, mobile apps, and the increasing reliance on digital tools for various tasks indicate a growing acceptance and adoption of new software by the general population.
Therefore, while it’s true that there may be initial barriers and confusion, it is possible for new software like Lemmy to compete with established platforms like Reddit by focusing on simplifying the user experience, addressing the needs of non-technical users, and gradually building a community base that fosters familiarity and engagement. It’s important not to underestimate the potential for normal people to embrace new software when it offers compelling features and a user-friendly interface.
The best analogy I’ve found so far is “it’s like having an email address; having a different server after the @ is not an impediment to your participation. Just know that you can only login to the server where your account is set up.”
I am using this example! That’s a great way of explaining it.
I’m still slightly confused about aggregating or if that is even possible. I guess I just need to have a separate account for NSFW stuff lol
Tbh the lemmy home page that’s supposed to walk you though joining needs to be cleaned up. The page kinda assumes you are somewhat tech literate, and doesn’t really do a good job at explaining how to navigate the fediverse.
I would check it here and there the last few weeks. It’s completely barren. Most subs are just gone and the popular page is just askreddit or food posts. It’s awful. This is my new home!
That’s just not true lol but some subs stayed down. The remaining subs are still getting 50k karma on hot posts. It’s mostly am I the asshole type posts and the small niche ones active
It depends on what you were subscribed to. Most of mine are dead too, but they were smaller and more eclectic subreddits.
And how many of them are spez-bots?
Bout tree fiddy
Yeah, I didn’t look to see which subs were up or down, but my home feed is drastically reduced and I don’t see nearly as much as I used to
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Do they seriously have 2k employees? I’d kill to know what all of their jobs are and what each of them does day to day. From what I’ve heard from mods and from what we’ve seen I can’t imagine they were all doing much.
You’re gonna have Devs, Support, QA testing, HR, Accounting, IT, Facilities, cleaners etc etc.
Lots of stuff behind the scenes that doesn’t interact with the public.
Reddit is like a museum, except they don’t pay for the art, and the staff (docents, security, etc) are all volunteers. Further, they don’t sell tickets, rather they charge people to run concessions and gift shops on the premises.
Without the art, nobody comes and the vendors all quit. Without the staff the art will get vandalized and stolen, visitors leave, and the vendors all quit.
Reddit owns a warehouse where volunteers built something valuable for them. Fighting with the volunteers is next level dumb.
What’s more disgusting is the army of bots they used to slander their volunteers. Every subreddit I was actually active in was painfully obvious to see hundreds of accounts that never posted there suddenly showing up and being violently anti-moderator.
My favorite thing over there right now is r/videos, which only allows text descriptions of the video you were going to post. It’s way more entertaining than it has any right to be.
Dammit.
Thank you!!! >:(
I mean, half the good subs are still gone. I can’t even use my home feed anymore, its half just video game subs now. Places like r/interestingasfuck were regular features in my feed that were pretty important to it being a pleasant experience overall. I balanced that shit.
Now its all fucked. I still have my account and still go there, to poke around and participate in some of those video game subs, where reddit is still clearly dominant. But hanging out has gotten kinda lame.
Yeah, it’s the video game subs that I miss. I’ve joined the same ones here on Lemmy but they’re mostly dead… I’m optimistic that they’ll populate and come alive though.
I don’t get how’s there’s so much activity here on the big communities but us lemmy nerds….have dead gaming communities, the hell?
I’m also missing a popular wrestling sub because I like to keep up with the news as I don’t watch any TVs or PPVs so I’m back to browsing there on PC.
There’s a difference between nerds and geeks
I miss Tihi to be honest. And few other subreddits. But I can survive without them.
Reddit has made it easy now that my mobile apps are gone. Also, my main account got permananned on Tuesday apparently out of comment posted 5 years ago about spez. Also, a niche sub I followed was taken over by a Nazi when the historical mod got kicked out by reddit and now that’s gone too.
Reddit has slipped into being irrelevant very quickly.
My main account got permabanned for “sexualization of minors” after I made a comment criticizing a guy talking about what he’d do to 4th graders. Sent an appeal… and got permabanned on ALL of my accounts for “recurring offense”.
Maybe spez wants to turn all of Reddit into jailbait again.
Reddit: “Someone reported a theft. What do you know?”
You: “Yes, I reported the theft. Here are the details of the perp.”
Reddit: “When we turned up you were the only one here. You sound like you know a lot. You’re under arrest for theft.”
That’s about the level of effort. I would wager that nobody really checks whether the admins or whatever they call their safety squad are doing a realistically good job… probably just metrics like “banned 150 people last week”.
I got a full IP ban from reddit because I asked a guy how he kept his calm and didnt flip his shit at his clients, after he just made a big post about how his clients were complete and utter idiots who made him ahve to come back at all hours of the day to fix their stupidity for over a year.
According to reddit, replying to a guys post with a relevant question constitutes severe harassment.
I wouldn’t say Reddit is irrelevant at all, not yet and maybe not for a long time. But I don’t care about Reddit at all anymore. I think that when Boost for Lemmy comes out I won’t even look back on Reddit
What sucks is there’s still a few very good subs with big communities that don’t seem to be moving to the fediverse, which is still too geeky for a lot of people. However, now that Reddit is banning active members and moderators, it’s a matter of weeks until the whole thing turns into 4chan-on-a-bad-day. At this rate we’ll all get back to usenet by 2024.
I’ve been using Connect for Lemmy, and seems on par with Boost already.
I disagree. Reddit is dead in the water. They’ve driven away their most valuable volunteer content generators and workforce who made their entire product. There’s nothing left.
It does, however, still have value. I suspect that we’re about to see what a site looks like when thousands of traditional bots and LLMs start talking to each other without human intervention.
The Dead Internet theory is becoming reality right in front of our eyes. I can hardly believe it.
You can see a lot of communities being closed or not back to normal. My feeling is that this whole thing will leave a big scar on reddit for a long time, and it will probably never heal, because it was mostly hitting core users who were there for a long time. Maybe they calculated that most users are lurkers who use mobile, and the rest is people using old reddit?
The problem is that it’s not a good idea to upset the mods, but reddit also works with content, and it’s a complex chemistry between people who post new things and how the mods regulate it to make sure their sub has quality. I guess that a lot of mods don’t care, or maybe they don’t care now but will care later? Maybe new subreddits will open with other mods.
Eitherway, reddit is ready to sacrifice a good fraction of its quality and trust to extract money out of it, but reddit users are not instagram users.
It was more and more difficult to make reddit interesting by avoiding some subreddits and searching for subreddits that were more and more niche, but at some point you feel that something is lost after the whole “increase quantity, dilute quality” phase.
Reddit is also getting more polarized and politics have really poisoned the site to a degree never seen before, Trumpists were present there for waaaaay too long, and it attracted a lot of conservatives and right wing users who don’t fit with the usual reddit crowds. It managed to survive after a looooot of drama, but after all this, maybe the core users of reddit are just tired, and might slowly quit the ship, and maybe reddit will see the same problems twitter is currently having, with conservative etc running rampant.
I wish reddit would have stood up with its core users who are mostly liberals/leftists, instead of compromising and letting fascists thrive there.
I use my country’s subreddit and it seems the right wing phase is being felt more and more, I’m feeling even the mods start to get tired because of it. every month I’m surprised by the opinions of the comments I see on this sub. Maybe it also reflects world politics, but I’m not sure. Sometimes I get paranoid and I imagine that astroturfers are often around to leave a mean comment, or downvote things that doesn’t fit their agenda.
The upside is that reddit still managed to hold up for much longer than digg.
Thanks. This is the type of quality comment that lemmy needs
Do not protest reddit. Boycott reddit for good and live in the lemmyverse.
If your lemmy instance gets unbearable, there will always be another lemmy instance to go to.
If you do use reddit, it should be to post and comment about lemmy to inform the current redditors to move to lemmyverse.
Most remaining are hardcore, but I still do that…
Something I never understood - having used Manjaro KDE for 6 years now, and always getting the best help in the free Manjaro forum… Why do people go to Reddit and ask there???
I never actually got good answers in Reddit, and I was never interested to try to help folks in Reddit (though I’ll help in Manjaro forums, and if I get it wrong there are Guru’s reading who will help me see where I went wrong).
I understand that Reddit had a lot of great stuff, but people just over-extend everything with their tiny little brains.
Yes. The mods should just make their way over here even. Just start moving.
How would I even access it without rif?
You can log out of rif and it will work, though no porn
Looking at logged out Reddit really takes the proverbial paper bag off. It’s so unappealing.
Revanced patched version of the reddit app without ads and other bloat, or through a web browser with ublock and RES.
Or a Revanced patched version of RiF itself
Unfortunately I res doesn’t work on android.
Ot even on firefox dev?
/r/all has top posts from very obscure subreddits now
My Frontpage has much much less churn.
As long as we keep making this place good and active, it will be attractive. With the increased spam bots and degraded moderation, people will start looking elsewhere
/r/Pics and /r/videos are still rebelling. /r/videos is only allowing text descriptions of videos and /r/PICS is still nothing but John Oliver
Though the did go NSFW and reddit is having a fit about it. We might see the mods replaced in the next 24 hours.
I’d like to suggest that if the mods are replaced and the NSFW tag is removed that we all go post as much mildly NSFW content as possible just to poke the bear.
