Most people who own these crappy cars can’t even really afford them. Now they are in big trouble because they can’t get rid of them. Lol.
That would be good for the EV conversion market. Since they use a lot of Tesla motors and battery packs.
What if everyone would transfer their PayPal credit to a regular bank account on the same day? Would that bring Paypal value down?
hard to estimate, but probably not. I think what makes such companies go down is when the investors fear their money might be lost. that is, when the company is not worth much compared to their invested money.
So only, when the user count is dropping, that would be the case for paypal.
If I had one I’d keep it, vandalise it myself and turn it into an anti-musk advertising vehicle. It’s a bad idea to waste the resources that went into making them.
But selling a used one to someone that wants an affordable EV will potentially turn someone from buying one brand new, and therefore keeping profits out of Little Musky’s pockets.
Sell a vandalised one then. At least you know it won’t be going to a maga.
I’d just park it in portland overnight and file an insurance claim the next morning.
When you want a job done right, don’t leave it to amateurs, go to stealmytesla.com.
satire? that shit is funny as hell.
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No sympathy.
While it’s nice to protest outside of the Tesla dealership, people should be protesting outside of US embassies, and while they are at it, protest outside of the Chinese and Russian embassies too. Block them in.
Trump and musk couldn’t care less about protests outside embassies.
The Tesla protests are hurting musk.
People are doing. But embassies tend to be in capital cities but Tesla dealerships are everywhere.
If I were to drive one, I would never let such circumstances push me to sell.
I know this the unpopular opinion at the moment, but what electric sedan is better than a model 3? The rest of the producers have all decided we want to drive crossovers or boxes and simply cannot figure out how to make a frunk.
The first few times sitting in or driving a tesla was cool and novel. But after you have used the fart simulator app a few times, and let your sister in law post a few pictures. It’s just a car that takes a lot of space in small parking spots.
It is low quality, breaks often, expensive to repair, barely fits parking spots, expensive to buy, has paid for addons that have been coming soon the last 10 years
There is a lot of other electric vehicles I’d rather have
2025 Model 3: 186"L x 73"W x 57"H
2025 Audi A4 Sedan: 188"L x 73"W x 56"H
2025 Chevy Malibu: 194"L x 73"W x 57"H
2004 Ford Taurus: 198"L x 73"W x 56"H
2025 Mercedes CLA: 185"L x 73"W x 55"H
2025 Nissan Leaf: 176"L x 71"W x 61"H
2025 Audi A3 Sedan: 177"L x 72"W x 56"HWhat do you mean the Model 3 is huge? It’s small by American standards and standard by European executive compacts. Compared to what, a Leaf? If the Leaf had a sedan counterpart, it’d be the same size as the 3. Vice versa if the 3 had a hatch version, as a hatch is often about 9" shorter than a sedan of the same model. Of all the things against Tesla, I can’t say I’ve heard anyone call the 3 big. If you’re not in North America, I’m not familiar with the compacts and hatches, but that’s why I threw in the Germans I know
Ioniq?
Absolutely. Hyundai and Kia have the best EVs by a long shot. Charge way faster than a Tesla, too.
Audi.
Lots of choice in Europe
Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it’s time to jump ship
You can still get aftermarket parts for Pontiac vehicles. Then again Pontiac didn’t go around suing everyone who even thought about making aftermarket parts for their vehicles.
I hope byd buys them for pennies on the dollar and they keep people employed
But most importantly I hope it’s for pennies on the thousands of dollars
I shamefully admit I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021 or 2022. Flush with a shit ton of cash, but fortunately I was reading reports of production build quality issues, many recalls, and ultimately pulled back my deposit.
Looking back at it. The one decision I have no regrets on.
That’s the part I never understood. Even if you weren’t a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.
Tesla is basically a case study in top down engineering. Radical ideas promised by marketing, sometimes good and sometimes bad, executed in a massive fucking rush which results in tons of build quality and general delivering on promises issues.
Which only worked at first because they were a start up. At that point many people will accept the early adopter woes, but Tesla never quite matured out of it.
yep. They rested on their laurels, thinking their success of being first would always be success.
and now the big automakers have their own electric cars, that are properly built, and damn cheap compared to tesla prices.
and the first tesla musk had any design input on was the cybertruck, which is nothing more than the fever dream of an edgy emotionally stunted 13 year old, and built to about the same quality as you would expect from one
I’ll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.
God I hate old me.
Tesla was a long way ahead of the competition for a very long time, to the point where they were the only option for a vehicle that was genuinely a replacement for a combustion vehicle.
Without them, I very much doubt EV market share would be anywhere near what it is today.
Don’t know about that. Leaf has been pretty important as well.
It has been, but the leaf was very much a “second car” for a very long time. They had relatively short range, an air cooled battery, and as a result couldn’t be charged particularly fast. The battery would also overheat if you tried to charge it multiple times.
Tesla, on the water, had a water cooled battery pack, and could be fast charged multiple times per day, and much faster than other vehicles, meaning a road trip was actually possible.
I’m not sure how it even managed to get so big when the EV1 was so beloved but supposedly killed by the automotive industry.
The EV1 was too far ahead of its time. The tech wasn’t there and to even accomplish what they did cost far more than they could hope to sell it for. An estimate that each EV1 cost GM around $100k to make in the early 90’s (so around $200k in today’s dollars).
Battery tech has progressed massively since then and makes all of this possible now (even if it’s still expensive).
All your reasons were valid though. Teslas were the best electric cars for a long time, probably not so anymore. Tesla as a brand has done good things, like you say opening up their charging standard which is superior to all the other competitors.
Personally, I wouldn’t get a Tesla because they are sort of like the apple of car companies, e.g. anti-consumer and anti-repair. Plus, Musk owning it is another big negative.
Just like model ts were the best for a long time because they were the only ones.
tesla just had good marketing, while thier TESLAS have been lacking QC for quite a while.
You’re always supposed to hate or be embarrassed by the old you; that means you learned. It means growth. It’s a good thing.
Take it from an old man, at a certain point you will grow beyond having to feel “embarassed” by your former self, because your ego won’t be tied to it.
Now just block trump properties
what you expect from temupanzers
I hope they lose money because they bought a 1939 Volkswagan with an electric motor on it, and then claimed
Well how was I meant to know the man who lives on the internet 24/7 and can’t shut up about his opinions of women, non-whites, fascism, lgbt, and lies like he needs his pants to be warm for the winter, was somehow a bad guy? I bought a cool sticker, so I’m absolved of giving him any money :^)
These people bought them because they thought he was a real life Tony Stark, especially the early models and Cybertrucks. I consider everyone driving in one a useful idiot for Trump and Musk.
Elon is getting slapped by the invisible hand.
fun fact: the people who originally coined the phrase ‘invisible hand of the market’ called it ‘the invisible hand of providence’ which basically means ‘gods inscrutable will’. capitalism-at least market capitalism-is literally a religion.
and its god is smiting his favorite special boy. so sad.
I think this hand ain’t invisible. Well at least one finger isn’t.
