A honorable discharge DD-214 should come with naturalized citizenship papers automatically.
I came here to say this. Like wtf he’s done more for this country than half of the citizens born here
“I get it. I broke the law and everything, but I think this is a little severe what they’re doing to me after I paid my dues after I did my time for the offense that I did,” he said.
Okay. So he gets shot twice serving the U.S. The military doesn’t give him support for his PTSD, and he turns to drugs. He gets addicted, fights with that for over a decade before they throw him in jail because there isn’t a fucking social program to help addicts in this country, not even veteran addicts, gets clean in jail, turns his life around, and spends the next 16 years complying with the restrictions placed on him due to losing his green card because of his nonviolent conviction.
So even though he apparently is one of the few people who was rehabilitated by going to prison, he was treated as if he was a criminal for the rest of his time, even though he’s been clean longer than he was an addict. So I guess the state doesn’t believe that prisons rehabilitate people. (I don’t believe they do, but it’s clear the state doesn’t either.)
And finally, this man has a non-violent conviction. Trump has done more violent crime than him. But I guess it doesn’t count if you pay off your victims and make them sign an NDA, so the media has to say “allegedly” every time they talk about all the people you’ve raped. Trump should be deported to the nearest place that’ll take him.
No one deserves that clown. The American people need to deal with him.
There are some Middle Eastern countries that would be ecstatic to host him for a short time.
I mean. That’s fair. I would accept a desolate island or wherever they dropped off Bin Laden.
I hate the euphemism of “self-deport.”
Let’s call it what it really is: ICE threatened to lock him up and send him to an undisclosed location if he didn’t flee the country.
Forced to self-deport? So… Deported. It’s redundant.
What’s really heartbreaking is that when these veterans, who took bullets for us, get told by our country that they need to leave, they just say “Yup, I guess I gotta leave”, and don’t make a huge deal about it. Donald Trump whines, in an extremely public matter, whenever he doesn’t get his way, and these people just continue to do what their country asks them to, even when the country tells them to leave.
Life just isn’t fair.
We have to shout for him, there’s nothing he can do. You know, “First they came for…” and all that.
We have to shout for him
We can’t.
The people who need to hear it are in another bubble and never will.
TBH I dunno how to fix it anymore. Even ‘revolution’ like many on Lemmy fantasize about will not penetrate, and most people don’t want to understand what propaganda and algos are doing to them.
Protest has been working. Slowly, but it’s working. Trump’s approval rating is in the dumpster and I see no way for him to pull it out. His base is dumping him. I’m not sure of what’s next, but take the small wins when we can.
53% unfavorable is not ‘in the dumpster,’ unfortunately:
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_haeOEK5.pdf
https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
It’s better than his first term, and we re-elected him… If COVID couldn’t penetrate the bubble, I honestly don’t know what will.
Here are many polls that show him under water. The red means more people dislike him than like him.
Edit for source: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
Yeah and disapprove +11 (aka 54%) is the lowest poll (which I see more as +8 considering the 3% ‘undecided’ block). It’s not even close to congressional or direction disapproval polls, and it’s still around where he was last time as president.
I don’t mean to sound combative, but a slight plurality of disapproval is not gonna cut the mustard.
It doesn’t matter. He’s not going to give up power because a bunch of people don’t like him. He doesn’t fucking care.
What’s next is they make him dictator for life, so he doesn’t have to pretend to care about his base anymore.
Yeah, I just don’t know how we come back from this. It’s not like the sane among us are suddenly going to decide to go along with fascism, nor is that 30+% that somehow control the narrative going to stop being the literal worst all of a sudden (see: post-Reconstruction).
So we… Balkanize? Hold US Nuremberg trials and actually do something about the priblem, assuming we can get to that point?
It’s not like the sane among us are suddenly going to decide to go along with fascism
Oh you underestimate people’s self interest. If Big Tech continues on it’s trajectory to a kind of Theil-ish cyberpunk dystopia, most people are going to go along. Like, even I have super techy naturalized family that keeps using Google or Facebook stuff. It’s (seemingly) too essential.
It’s not like the sane among us are suddenly going to decide to go along with fascism
If that’s your definition of sane I think you are in for a surprise about how low the number of sane people is. Just like common sense isn’t actually that common.
No offense to Americans, I understand some of you are great people, but I wouldn’t need much of a reason to leave America at this point. If not for my safety, then for my sanity. If not for my sanity, then for eggs.
Reason, sure. Ability? That’s something else. Most of us don’t have enough money to make the journey. I don’t know of many places that would even accept us as immigrants without a substantial monetary value/donation or work skill, plus the language skills we don’t have because schools don’t teach foreign languages well or at all.
Who would even have us all?
I assume they don’t charge you to get deported so there’s a free ticket there and I’m no geographist but there’s a couple countries that also use english as their official language
They’re deporting us to concentration camps, not countries. They absolutely aren’t determining where you should go. Alligator Auschwitz, CECOT, the one they’re building in Guantanamo… It’s not a free ticket to another country and freedom. It’s a long road to death.
Don’t forget South Sudan.
What I’m hearing is that you get free food, no rent, and access to a closely knit community of people who have many experiences to share
Edit: you people don’t appreciate camping and it really shows
This is flat out one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen someone say on the Internet.
So stupid that it might not even be serious. I guess I need to explicitly state that people shouldn’t strive to be deported?
And those countries won’t accept you if they think you might be a “burden” on their social services budget/infrastructure. Young, in the prime of career, in-demand skills, maybe a job offer, or just filthy rich? OK, maybe you can get in. Maybe. But if you’re older or just a regular schmuck without any family in those countries to depend on, then probably not.
Yeah, well… Got room for 60 million immigrants?
Like…in my apartment? Probably not but I’ve also never tried.
Are you willing?
I don’t personally have an issue with it but my 60 million roommates will have to share 1 bathroom
WHO THE FUCK USED ALL THE HOT WATER, but every nano-second
deleted by creator
Convince your loved ones to sell all of their material belongings, announce as a group that you are a band of undocumented Romanian gypsies, get deported, arrive in Romania, hoof it to the Ukraine border and claim to be Ukrainian refugees, be accepted into the UK,
Open the first Michelin recognized hotdog and burger food cart, sell your life rights to netflix, go back to the US with all your new money, shit in a paper bag, set it on fire, leave it on the doorsteps of people that have wronged you, go back to the UK, find out that the nearby shawarma shop has stolen your clientele, get depressed, get in a physical argument with the shawarma guys, get deported back to Ukraine,
Channel your anger into fighting the Russians, become known as the Ukrainian ghost sniper with 420 confirmed kills, die a hero, your grandchildren try to sell your war memorabilia on the dark web for vape money, uncover your hidden past as an American, they shit in a paper bag, light it on fire, then leave it on the front porch
deleted by creator
The way I see it, they can say yes or no. Which is basically 50/50 so you have a 50% chance of passing this stage.
The rest of it is easy work as long as you’re all young, fit, combat trained, able to fake at least 3 european accents, have solid bowel movements, have international underworld connections, a bit of business sense, and a small fortune in a swiss bank
deleted by creator
You could always switch to plastic bags instead of paper if your stool ain’t stooling but plastic is bad for the environment.
I don’t know how you’re going to kill 420 Russians with your guitar though.
If I could easily emigrate to a country that didn’t suck, I would.
Can someone kindly explain to me how you can be a veteran but not a citizen?
U.S. citizens and some non-citizens can join the military. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must:
- Have a U.S. Permanent Resident Card (Green Card)
- Speak, read, and write English fluently
You cannot join the military to enter the U.S. or to get a visa.
Being a citizen is not a requirement for serving in the US armed forces
I always assumed that fighting for the army means you’re a citizen.
And I do think that if you served in active duty, you deserve citizenship.
But I’m not American. They can make their own rules of course.
I’m sure it depends on the country. Many do allow non citizens though. The French Foreign Legion is one of the most well known
So, there is a path to citizenship if you serve 3 years, but you have to file the paperwork at that time. If you didn’t file it for whatever reason, there is no automatic citizenship for service.
Park moved to the U.S. from Seoul when he was 7 years old and had legal permanent residency under a green card.
he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana to cope with nightmares and sensitivity to loud noises and moved to Hawaii in 1995 for a better lifestyle. But he became addicted to crack cocaine and struggled for years to get clean.
Crack led to prison led to revoked green card.
More proof that the War on “Drugs” is largely an authoritarian criminalization of untreated mental health issues.
We shouldn’t lock people up for addiction any more than we should lock people up over depression.
“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
John Daniel Ehrlichman (/March 20, 1925 – February 14, 1999) was an American political aide who served as White House Counsel and Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under President Richard Nixon. Ehrlichman was an important influence on Nixon’s domestic policy, coaching him on issues and enlisting his support for environmental initiatives—Wikipedia
One less war criminal.
