Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.

Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE

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    There’s a West Point study that had it’s link changed so that news articles referencing it got a 404 error. It still exists, but it has to be searched for directly to be found.

    https://ctc.westpoint.edu/terrorist-groups/violent-far-right-terrorism/

    If anyone wants to see it.

    Edit: y’know what, here‘s more just in case anyone wants them before they disappear.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35236192/

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

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    Ministry of Truth.

    This is bad.
    It’s also so obvious I’d consider it a show of power. A threat.

    Right wing Europeans are continually taking notes of what can be done. And they are all forming an Internationale.
    Its so fucking bad.

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      We need to shut down fascists by disrupting their conferences and communications, and dividing them by disparaging the evangelists’ support for Trump as betraying Christian values (because Trump is atheist), and by disparaging the fascists’ support for evangelists as betraying the state values (in that the church doesn’t listen to fascism), and so on. Divide and rule.

      Communists need to have more children than the fascists.

  • They’re trying to rewrite history/truth because they wanna push the “left wingers are domestic terrorists” thing so bad rather than admit right wingers are just pieces of shit lmao

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        And there’s currently a group using terrorism to try to take America away from all of us

        Edit: it’s the idiots trying to call the left terroris… Those idiots are using terrorism to try to take control

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      If only there were another historic event/group that would be make a good comparison.
      OH WAIT

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    Well, “study” is already such a radical-left, woke concept! Like all those “studies” about vaccines. True MAGA Patriots go by gut feeling and by other things that are also produced in the guts!

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      You know if we actually wanted to get rid of these people it would be really easy. All we have to do is release some deadly but preventable disease. Then encourage everyone to get vaccines.

      The problem with covid is that it wasn’t really deadly for most people. So they got sick and were probably miserable but they never learnt their lesson.

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        A friend of mine, always with a non optimal immune system, had planned a wedding anniversary vacation to Mexico in 2009 but refused to get a shot against the Mexican Flu…

        Within a week of his vacation he got infected with the Mexican Flu, which by then was a pandemic… (the western world almost forgot about this one) He quickly was transported to an ER in his home city, tubes sticking out of him everywhere, no one allowed to visit him beyond the airlock… Eventually he recovered but it took at least a year to feel sort of healthy. Claimed he regretted not getting the H1N1 (Mexican Flu) vaccine.

        He got a flu-shot a year after, but after the 2nd year he refused “if I get one I get a stuffed nose for a full month”.
        When I reminded him of not learning a lesson from the Mexican Flu, he claimed it wasn’t that bad…
        Almost had no proper recollection of being in emergency care with tubing all over his body…

        Year 5 after his H1N1 adventure he had been without flu shots for a while, got another flu, was badly ill for 6 weeks, lost his job because of it… Tried to convince himself it was a younger worker who stole his job…

        We broke contact after a while where it was clear he was willfully spiraling downward into a black hole of denial and blaming others.

        So, yeah, folks like that do not learn a lesson, not even if they end up very ill and it having lasting effects on their life, there is a pressing need to find another person to lay blame on.

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      P values are woke. The IRB is the deep state. Data is biased for lefties.

      If they knew what any of those things were they’d say it.

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    Corrected text:

    “Following Chork getting what he deserved, and the Trump terrorist regime’s threat to go after a demented fiction, a study showing most domestic terrorism being far-right, was censored.”

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    The American Nazi party deletes documents showing their supporters are pieces of shit… Who could have ever seen this coming.

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        Every German who went to school after 1945, for one.

        More like 1980.

        In the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a widespread reluctance among Germans to acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. However, this began to change in the 1960s and 1970s, as a new generation of Germans began to grapple with the legacy of their country’s past. The first efforts to teach about the Holocaust in German schools began in the 1980s, and since then, the curriculum has continued to evolve to better reflect the complexities of this history.

        https://knowgermany.com/do-they-teach-about-the-holocaust-in-germany/

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        Per Merriam-Webster’s website:

        Did you know?
        Jingoism Got Its Start in the 19th Century

        Jingoism originated during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, when many British citizens were hostile toward Russia and felt Britain should intervene in the conflict. Supporters of the cause expressed their sentiments in a music-hall ditty with this refrain:

        We don’t want to fight, yet by jingo if we do,
        We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men,
        We’ve got the money, too!

        Someone holding the attitude implied in the song became known as a jingo or jingoist, and the attitude itself was dubbed jingoism. The jingo in the tune is probably a euphemism for Jesus.

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    That’s so perfectly typicsl for the right.

    It’s really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to… bury the evidence.

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      Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.

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        Sort of.

        I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it’s a simple business strategy. It’s not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it’s just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.

        But for right-wingers, it’s some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that’ll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They’ll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?

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    The right wing are bad people and we need to stop pretending it’s just a difference of opinion. They in several fundamental ways suck.

    And yet everyone’s all like “oh Goebbels was a gifted marketer and father we can’t say mean things”. Fuck 'em. They can choose to stop being shit any time they want. Until then, they deserve nothing but scorn.

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      “We” are not maintaining the delusion that the right wing monsters are legitimate. It’s the media that has pretended these far right extremist positions are sane, and has elevated them to prominence. If they were honest about how loathsome and unamerican right wing ideals are, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      Media corpos are typically run by right wingers, and are massive for-profit companies that make a killing on running election ads (presently a ~20Bn industry cyclic every 4 years), so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that they do this. And now the Trump admin has weaponized the DOJ to go after them for any criticism at all, so this phenomenon is on steroids currently.

      I strongly agree with your last sentence. The media, other politicians, etc - nobody is going to hold right wingers accountable for us. Unfortunately, we have to do it ourselves, to their dumb faces, and force them to face the uncomfortable truths of their reprehensible actions. Good luck, be strong, and find ways to consistently stand up for the morally correct positions. Keeping pressure up this way is a vital component to how we can win.

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      I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.

      What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.

      There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.

      Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

      As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.

      Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.

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        77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what’s going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.

        Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it’s really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren’t registered feel politically, but it’s probably safe to assume if they can’t be bothered to vote, they’re probably not down for the civil war remix.

        Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It’s hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that’s only 35 million people or 11% of the population.

        They’re really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren’t that many of them. There are far more people who don’t care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.

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        Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

        I’m told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we’re pretty close.

        And I don’t think it’s 52%. A lot of people don’t vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that’s getting high on hating people.

        I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.

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        It’s more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don’t vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don’t actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.

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          I tried to find a study I read a year or two ago about how informed voters were. It kind of shocked me that it was really close between the Rs and the Ds. Neither voter was particularly well-informed, just tribal.

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            I went looking out of curiosity, and the first study my search turned up found:

            We have established and replicated a clear experimental effect in which subjects randomly treated with political information shift their preferences toward the Democratic Party. We draw the conclusion that, in contrast to previous observational work, the current deficit of political knowledge in the electorate actually benefits the Republican Party.

            Fowler, A., & Margolis, M. (2014). The political consequences of uninformed voters. Electoral Studies, Volume 34, 2014, 100-110. [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.electstud.2013.09.009]

            I’m not trying to refute your statement or the assertion that you saw the study you describe; I just found this bit interesting and worth adding here.

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        there is no reason to give the majority of those people the benefit of the doubt. Humans can have large groups with oppressive opinions. A large segment of Germans supported the nazi’s, a large section of Israel thinks gaza isn’t being destroyed harshly enough and a large sections of americans currently believe in massive oppression.

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      Goebbels was a great father, how dare you?

      How many fathers can claim they killed their own children because he was a little bitch?

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        He couldn’t stand to spend a day in the afterlife without his children with him. Doesn’t his love just bring a tear to your eye?

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        If more fascists in this country thought the way Goebbels did, we’d have less fascists in this country.

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      Joseph Goebbels was a Nazi, and he poisoned his 6 kids at the end of the war before also committing suicide… Nobody is saying that about him, and I know where you got that phrase from too…I literally just read the article on lemmy. So I dont know why you’re using it since its out of context.

      You can criticize people without making shit up…